As someone who is a scientist who studies turtles, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls tortoises turtles. If you want to be “specific” like you said, then you shouldn’t either. They’re not the same thing.
If you’re saying “turtle family” you’re referring to the taxonomic grouping of Testudines, which includes things from Meiolania to Helochelydra.
So your reasoning for calling a tortoise a turtle is because random people “call the not extinct ones turtles?” Let’s get chameleons and snakes in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone panther or a puma? It’s not one or the other, that’s not how taxonomy works. They’re both. A tortoise is a tortoise and a member of the turtle family. But that’s not what you said. You said a tortoise is a turtle, which is not true unless you’re okay with calling all members of the turtle family turtles, which means you’d call meiolania, Helochelydra and other reptiles turtles, too. Which you said you don’t.
Panther generally refers to leopards or jaguars with black coloration. It can also sometimes be used to refer to other members of the Panthera genus like lions and tigers.
Pumas (also called mountain lions and cougars, different names for the same and animal) are not part of the Panthera genus, and have never been documented to show black coloring, so it’s not accurate to call them a panther.
As the mom of shelter mutt, that was pup from a shelter mutt, that was a pup of a street mutt, this is one thing that I can put my finger up on:
☝🏻While humans may have domesticated the dog, they didn’t make the dog. The dog was a dog before it became a pet. And I have to say, regardless of the breed, I still believe that the loyalty, unconditional love, and heart of the dog is something that we humans didn’t contribute to—it would be impossible because these are traits that humans have yet to master at the same level of the dog. It’s the opposite actually; humans are better because of dogs.
Depends on how you define “dog” and how you define “pet”, but generally I would say no. Somewhere along the line there were wild wolves that were slightly less hostile to humans and weren’t killed on sight, but I wouldn’t call them dogs or pets.
And I have to say, regardless of the breed, I still believe that the loyalty, unconditional love, and heart of the dog is something that we humans didn’t contribute to—it would be impossible because these are traits that humans have yet to master at the same level of the dog.
That is a lot of sentimental mumbo-jumbo that is clearly refuted by the science. We didn’t make them into dogs by teaching them those traits, we made them into dogs by selectively breeding only the most friendly ones, over thousands of years. It doesn’t matter if we “mastered” those traits, because we were able to identify them and breed for them.